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 Quotes from a dinner with average Republicans voters: Why Rudy, Newt and McCain are in trouble and Mitt's looking good in the South (and a bit about Obama)
 

Saturday I was with a group of seven for dinner that I would characterize as core Republican voters, all Atlanta residents, with the exception of one woman from Chicago.

Their profiles: All college educated, well read Republicans. These are folks who vote regularly in primaries and general elections.

Two couples in their late 40’s; one with three children, the other I am uncertain if they have children; a lady in her 60’s, a young professional women about 40, (all originally from the Midwest) and a young guy in his 20’s (raised in NYC.) One couple are strong Christians, but not evangelicals, the others at the table I would guess are standard moderate to conservative Republicans and I am uncertain about their religious affiliation.

I asked about the 2008 race. I mentioned that a recent South Carolina poll (where the race will most likely be decided) had Giuliani, McCain and Newt in the top three spots, with Mitt Romney in single digits. I asked what they thought of the candidates, and was surprised to discover that Giuliani and Newt, at this point, had no chance with these voters.

For Giuliani and Newt it had nothing to do with their political positions, but with their personal lives. (One man expressed genuine admiration for Newt’s intelligence.) 

It wasn’t the multiple marriages…it was that both Rudy and Newt had conducted affairs while still married. I got the feeling that they would have forgiven the multiple marriages if these men had been divorced before moving on to the next woman.

On McCain, there was significant anger about campaign finance. One man said “I’ll never forgive him for McCain Feingold.”

On Mitt, I asked the Mormon question. This was not a problem for these folks…a quote “If he shares my values, it doesn't bother me that he is from a kind of different sect of Christianity.”

Whit Ayers, who is premier Republican pollster in the Southeast, answered this question the same way when I asked him about it at a dinner six months or so ago. “If the choice is between a guy who shares my values and one who doesn’t, I’m going with the guy who shares mine.”

On Barack Obama, three of the women had seen his appearance on Ophra, and thought he was a very attractive candidate. Even when asked about the fact that he is certainly a liberal (ADA rating of 100, to the left of Hillary) it did not dissuade them. I don’t think they would actually vote for him, but he does pose a danger to the Republicans.

As usual, Charles Krauthammer made a great point on the Hume show saying “Voters will not turn to some with little experience during wartime.” But obviously Obama could provide a massive lift to the Democrats in the VP slot.

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 More on Army Times...Jim Lehrer & Andrew Sullivan
 

I had taken out a comment I had in the previous post about Jim Lehrer that said that Lehrer should know that these "military" papers are privately published.  After reading the below...he's either willfully ignoring the truth or just not trying very hard to find it..  It took me less than two minutes to find the information below.

This is absolutely disgraceful..the MSM knows this stuff, but I bet you won't see or hear it anywhere today......I found this in the comments section of Andrew Sullivan's blog Sullivan after a link from Drudge...not too tough...

"Gannett owned papers call for Rumsfeld ouster: That's what the headline should be.

News to you folks: These are civilian papers.

They are not written, edited, or published by the U.S. Military. Editorial content like this, this, this, and this are not reflective of the views of the actual military members that the papers are marketed to. Instead of reading something into this story about the troops that simply isn't there, you should be asking instead why the premier publications marketed to a military audience is willfully trying to undermine the troops' chain of command. That's the real story.

And if you missed it, then you just didn't want to see it.

Update: Bryan at Hot Air finds another gullible soul - though I think Sullivan is being gullible by choice. "

Hat Tip:Don't Go into the Light

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 Jim Lehrer mischaracterizes The Army Times
 

On "Imus in the Morning" just now Jim Lehrer just said 'The Army Times is the official publication of the military."

This is not true. The Army Times is an independent, privately published newspaper. Last year, a writer for The Air Force Times declined to cover the funeral of a dead airman, saying something like “I’m tired of hearing about these guys." I'll try to find this quote later.

The jounalists who write for these publications are not servicemen, they are regular MSM journalists. Why would anyone be surprised they are gunning for Rumsfeld? It's quite simple...they timed the editorial to come out for maximum impact, and also saved it for two days prior to the election knowing that the Right would not have time to explain their true affiliation to the electorate. Very, very clever (and dishonest and devious.)

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 Vanity Fair editors lie to influence election
 

RICHARD PERLE: Vanity Fair has rushed to publish a few sound bites from a lengthy discussion with David Rose. Concerned that anything I might say could be used to influence the public debate on Iraq just prior to Tuesday’s election, I had been promised that my remarks would not be published before the election.

I should have known better than to trust the editors at Vanity Fair who lied to me and to others who spoke with Mr. Rose. Moreover, in condensing and characterizing my views for their own partisan political purposes, they have distorted my opinion about the situation in Iraq and what I believe to be in the best interest of our country. National Review Online

The lesson here is that no conservative or Republican should EVER talk to the press without tape recording the entire interview and having it transcribed and posted on the Internet at the time of any press releases or publication.  The press in this country CANNOT be trusted under any circumstances to play fair when it comes to the Right.

I think it’s very simple…the MSM knows that to gain viewers they have to have a veneer of fairness throughout most of the year for revenue purposes (especially CNN, which is getting hammered by Fox in the ratings.)  But as the election draws near (usually about six weeks out), they decide "Damn the revenue, it is just too important to let the Republicans win" and they revert to their patterns of old.

 

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 More MSM cheerleading for the Democrats
 

From NRO's The Corner:

CNN.COM ELECTION COVERAGE OBSERVATION [Kathryn Jean Lopez] On their election-results pages, CNN.com has "Service Personnel Killed in Iraq/Afghanistan" for each state.

If someone can explain how this qualifies as "election coverage" I'd love to hear it...............

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